whereas once we were an emergency food provider, now families are increasingly using us to meet their monthly food budgets. and, you know, we're just deeply concerned that that's not even possible for us to do in the face of these cuts. >> going through the holiday season, what is your message to americans, whether it's there in louisiana or really anywhere in the country? what's your message about what food banks like yours are up against? >> first of all, food banks depend on the support of the community. it's never more important than it is now because of these cults, because of what our families are going through in louisiana, and the other thing i would say is every day at second harvest we get to see the incredible generosity of people who are giving back to each other. i would really like for that to be the moral conversation that is part of our political discourse. >> i appreciate that framework, the notion that the moral conversation is how we give to each other, not how we take from one another. thank you so much for that. >> thank you for having me here. >> natalie, thanks